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Religion, NDE, and the limit of our sight

October 26, 2012 By Nan Bush 22 Comments

Writing this blog is the mental equivalent of training for a triathlon. You have no idea! Because the subject matter is both so personal and so experimental, everything has to be examined: “Do I really mean this?” “What does it mean to say [that]?” “How true is it that…?” “Who knows about …[subject requiring a decade of study].”

And so it occurs to me that I must have lost my mind to undertake a topic like religion and near-death experience, especially distressing NDEs with their connotations of hell. The readers of this blog range from “I-know-I’ve-been-there” experiencers to convinced evangelical Christians to puzzled mainliners (having nothing to do with drugs), to a whole range of non-Christians to religiously-dismissive atheists to believing-but-confused atheists and Nones, the spiritual-but-not-religious, and all points in between.  How to speak to all those perspectives…especially as mine may be altogether different?  [Read more…] about Religion, NDE, and the limit of our sight

Tagged With: doubt, Paranormalia, religion, Robert McLuhan, Saint-Exupery, truth

Religion and Distressing NDEs: Is hell real? Part 3

October 20, 2012 By Nan Bush 19 Comments

Today’s post is perhaps my short answer to the question of whether hell is real in a physical sense. For that, we go back to John Shore for a quote from his Kindle booklet Hell No! Extinguishing Christian Hellfire.

Shore is worth reading whether you consider yourself religious, or a none, or secular, or Christian, or outright atheist, because in his iconoclastic writing the bones of the discussion come clear. His work is deep, fun, and memorable. Not everyone, including me, will agree with everything he says (and you’ll see immediately why I say that), but  still…

You remember my story last week about the spring at the oasis? John Shore is over there right now, throwing off rocks.  [Read more…] about Religion and Distressing NDEs: Is hell real? Part 3

Tagged With: is hell real, John Shore, love, what happens after we die

Religion and Distressing NDEs, Part 2

October 12, 2012 By Nan Bush 14 Comments

Be joyful
though you have considered all the facts.
Wendell Berry, Manifesto

This is not a religious blog.

Or maybe it is.

That’s because it’s about numinous experiences. A numinous experience is any event that feels like a contact with a transcendent reality. A near-death experience is one kind of numinous experience. So is a spiritually transformative experience (STE). Or an “exceptional human experience” (EHE). Or a mystical experience (mystical experience). Sometimes an out-of-body experience (OBE) will have a transcendent quality. It’s like a religious conversion. All these are numinous events.

You will notice that all of these descriptive phrases take up far more time and space than simply the acronym. So, because of my specialty with distressing near-death experiences, I call them NDEs. Yes, I do recognize that this blurs lines many people consider important, and which I, too, sometimes consider vital. Unfortunately, more people understand “NDE” than know the meaning of “numinous.” “NDEs” is simply more efficient. NDE purists think I am indiscriminate. True. I have a difficult time with doctrine.

In any event, it is clear that questions concerning religion lie behind many difficulties with understanding near-death experiences and their close relatives. What is it about religion that causes so much confusion? Here are a few contenders:

  • Religion has to do with an unseen and often inexpressible aspect of life, something beyond the physical. So do NDEs.
  • Religion has to do with values, relationships, self-discovery. So do NDEs.
  • Religion has to do with encountering a powerful force greater and more meaningful than anyone can describe. So do some NDEs.
  • Religion, or its observance, can transform a person’s life. So do most NDEs.
  • Religion, at its best, has more to do with life on earth than it does with an afterlife. So, I believe, do NDEs. My view.

As I see it, there are two major differences:  [Read more…] about Religion and Distressing NDEs, Part 2

Tagged With: EHE, Great Commandment, Lou Savary, NDE, numinous experiences, OBE, Patricia H. Berne, religion, STE

Hellbound?: the Movie

September 26, 2012 By Nan Bush 25 Comments

Don’t worry–this one looks terrific. For one thing, this blog and the book Dancing Past the Dark are both listed among its resources!

From the Hellbound? website:

Does hell exist? If so, who ends up there, and why? Featuring an eclectic group of authors, theologians, pastors, social commentators and musicians, “Hellbound?” is a provocative, feature-length documentary that will ensure you never look at hell the same way again!

If you have any interest in the subject, I strongly suggest taking a look at the fascinating website, www.hellboundthemovie.com — and even if you have no interest in the subject or hate the very idea, I recommend taking a look at the website for its design and execution. It’s brilliantly done.

The film is being released now in a limited number of cities around the US and Canada. If you’re lucky, you can get to a showing. And if you’re super-lucky, it will be one at which writer/director Kevin Miller is doing a Q&A session.

Conference presentation: Untangling Hellish Visions

September 15, 2012 By Nan Bush 10 Comments

A written version–not a verbatim transcription–of my 2012 International Association for Near-Death Studies conference presentation, “Untangling Hellish Visions,” has just been added to the Articles page here. Essentially, the article, like the talk, is a quick trip through Western ideas about hell, with a very preliminary suggestion of an alternative view. Lots more to be said in blog posts to come!

The slides that went with the actual presentation were terrific, as you can sample in the article, proving yet again that human beings have no end of ways of scaring themselves blue, not to mention being unspeakably vicious to each other and then blaming it all on God. You can see them on the DVD, which is available, along with other conference talks, at the website, http://iands.org

Before you write to comment that this proves how horrible religions are, you might want to pause to consider a) the uses of secular ideologies such as Marxism and American Exceptionalism and b) what you think might encourage better behavior.

More to come. I do so appreciate your being here!

Tagged With: Augustine, Bible, Dante, Gehenna, Hades, hell, Sheol, Tartarus, The Inferno, violence

The visionary mind and near-death experience

August 26, 2012 By Nan Bush 16 Comments

A young woman is admitted to the psych ward of a large city hospital, claiming she is a witch and has the evil eye. She also claims she is being punished for this and wants to be baptized. Oh, and she says she died; while she was in the afterlife state she traveled across time and continents and is now caught up between two great world powers who want to make use of her knowledge. While watching a lightning storm, she has visions of great holy men and receives the revelation that she is to join them and lead a new religious era. She will be the new Virgin Mother and queen; but this is to be kept secret. Her city, she says, is about to become a new hell; but a new city will drop from the sky, from spaceships, bringing a whole new order into the world. People will then have wisdom enough to live together in peace.

Psychotic episode. Stark, raving mad. Oh, weird. Fruitcake.

Well, yes and no. Certainly a riot of archetypes.

As it happened, that young woman’s narrative extended over a long enough period of time for her to be considered psychotic and needing care. Had it occurred all at once, it might have been considered one walloping near-death experience, the kind that gets its teller on television and writing bestsellers that wide-eyed buyers interpret as literal prophecy of a real-world future. She might have started a whole new religion. She might have had to figure some kind of meaning out all by herself.

Fortunately, she came under the care of a remarkable psychiatrist, the late John Weir Perry, who recognized in her images a familiar, repetitive pattern. The pattern involves themes of death and birth, world destruction and creation, clashes of political or religious or even cosmic powers, sacred marriages and messianic callings, and programs of reform. Why, it sounds somewhat familiar.

It is, wrote Perry, “The world…shifted from the consensual outer reality to this inner myth-styled reality that tends not to be validated in our culture…According to the psyche’s purposes, in order to break out of the security of solid consensus and convention, one must encounter the experience of dying or of having already died, which symbolizes a dissolution of the accustomed self.”

In some especially rich experiences, the second element is a vision of the death of the world. “One must encounter the death of the familiar self-image and the destruction of the world image to make room for the self regeneration of them both. Life cannot be repaired, it can only be re-created.”

…one must encounter the experience of dying or of having already died, which symbolizes a dissolution of the accustomed self.

What a remarkable gift to many troubled people it would be, if we could only get out the word that a distressing NDE, especially a hellish one, needs to be approached as neither an afterlife threat or punishment but as  a mandate to take a new perspective of  life and world. One’s previous life cannot be repaired, it can only be re-created.

John Weir Perry, Trials of the Visionary Mind, Spiritual Emergency and the Renewal Process. Google Books.

Tagged With: archetype, destruction of the self image, destruction of the world image, dissolution, John Weir Perry, re-created, vision

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