Here’s a conversation about NDEs we haven’t had before—and doesn’t it seem odd there’s anything left we haven’t discussed? The topic comes once again from Nemo (Steve Weber), the source of so many interesting and worthwhile thoughts. Confusingly, there is another Steve Weber who also had an NDE, but that Steve lives in Florida and has a book about his NDE, titled The Place between Here and There. Nemo (Steve) lives in California and has a couple of walk-ins in my book.
It is Nemo (Steve) who writes to me introducing so many intriguing discoveries. Well into the pandemic, and more than a year after I had posted anything here, there were still bits of conversation happening occasionally online around the comments. In one of those lingering exchanges, he wrote:
One thing I’ve come to realize, regarding my current spiritual reality, on my path, is that it is virtually diametrically opposed to my “spiritual reality” of 50 years ago. I’ve wondered more than once what it would be like to time travel back to 1970 and present my current view to that new “Jesus Freak.” I wonder how the old “me” would respond to such apparent heresy. I mention this because I find it prudent to be mindful of this reality when conversing with others lest I become dogmatic and even find myself pontificating (Lord help us!). I’ve often despaired at attempting to convey my “truth”/reality to others, concluding that one’s truth/knowing isn’t transferable– after all, the “me” of much of the last 50 years likely couldn’t identify with it. The realizations that I’ve had regarding my Void NDE therefore have remained largely ineffable– I’ve attempted to convey them, but realize that one really can’t get it unless they’ve been there.
During the holed-up Year of Covid, I had spent my entire time, months on end of twelve-hour and fourteen-hour days, grappling with the story of my NDE and how I got from there to here. But oddly, it seems now, although the year was full of recollections about that earlier self, I had never thought to go back and have a conversation with her. What would we have to say to each other, with such different outlooks and understandings?
Time travel reckoning
In a preface to Beyond the Postmodern Mind, Huston Smith quotes Gai Eaton in The King of the Castle: “If, by some strange device, a man of our century could step backwards in time and mix with the people of a distant age, he would have good cause to doubt their sanity or his own.” The self of my today is a decade more than a half-century removed from the self of my NDE, which does not sound like “a distant age,” but the differences in thinking clearly mark the pivotal character of the years between. All of us who have memories from the 1960s and beyond have been living a sea change.
We surely knew there was chaos all around, but what most of us did not realize consciously was that so much of it was the crumbling of the Modern epoch. Our understanding of the world, and our certainties and expectations would go with it. Huston Smith continues:
[T]he stages peoples’ outlooks pass through on the temporal continuum have led the West to one that has come to be called “Postmodern” to distinguish it from the Modernity that began in the seventeenth century and ended around the middle of the last century. The Modern Mind took its cues from the new worldview that science introduced, but twenty-first century science has abandoned not just that worldview but worldviews generally. From Aristotle to Dante, the world was pictured as a series of concentric spheres. Newton replaced that with his clockwork universe, but quantum mechanics gives us, not a new picture of the world, but no picture at all. And philosophy has followed suit. Metaphysics died around the time that God died, Langton Gilkey has observed, tying its death to the “death of God” movement that Nietzsche announced, but which took a half-century to come to public notice.
The “no picture at all” of our quantumized Now is the “You are not real” of my NDE, My earlier self was securely Modern; the current version is recognizably Postmodern, though in contention with the aggressively “woke.” No wonder it has taken such struggle to integrate that hard-edged NDE, which was forcing a leap to a sociological, philosophical, and spiritual developmental stage for which I was not ready. And how interesting that, looking at it from this perspective, it sounds so obvious and not all that hard!
About that conversation with my younger self: it occurs to me that my best option would be simply to give her a copy of Reckoning and get an earlier start on unraveling this reality-shaking NDE.
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Asking a favor:
If you have read Reckoning—and especially if you enjoyed it (or at least found it interesting)—please add your Like to whatever review page you use. The book has been out more than a month and still has only three Likes and a single comment on Amazon. It is reassuring that all three have five stars and the comment is beyond gratifying, but in publishing, having only three people leave a rating is a body blow to the book’s reputation!
Your participation will make a difference. Readers with a distressing NDE need these books! I suspect that some readers may find the changes outlined in this one a bit hard to take in, simply because they are different from the usual NDE pattern and mainstream thinking That bewilderment is familiar to all of us when first encountering quantum realities! Your comments can help others make their way through. If you can’t bring yourself to write even a quick review, at least give Reckoning some stars! Five would be lovely, but honesty is important.
Thank you for helping!
Jill Whitehead says
Nancy,
I’m not sure if I will be able to rate your new book because I bought it through the book icon on my iPad. I’ve read enough to let you know that this book resonates deeply with my own experience as a toddler and how I have learned to handle it as an adult. You’re the only person I’ve found who can articulate this subject. I’m giving you 5 stars and many thanks!
Nan Bush says
Thanks, Jill. I’m so inexpert at these details–would probably give it a try, just to see. But no hard feelings in any case!
Nan Bush says
Jill again, I so appreciate your response to the book. Getting the sense down on paper has been an exercise in the ineffable, for sure. (Why it needed a space as big as the pandemic isolation to work in!) My reaction to discovering El Collie’s words is like yours now–so a personal sharing indeed. Thanks again.
Jill Whitehead says
Nan,
I finished your book and believe it’s a treasure to be shared! So, I bought the paperback on Amazon and gave you a real 5 star review!
Nan Bush says
Jill — BIG hug! Thank you! Poor baby’s been off to a rocky start, technically, so this kindness is more than special.
Jill Whitehead says
I know it’s late now on the east coast and don’t expect quick response. My sisters live on Long Island. They both attend a UU church and one of my sisters has been (or was) president for quite a long time. Would you like to connect with them? If so, you have my email and I will be more than happy to introduce you to them.
Nan Bush says
Jill, that’s the loveliest offer! I’m no longer in the Northeast, though; am now 700 miles south. Your sisters are now almost the same inconvenient driving distance as my sisters in New York State. But I love the offer!
Jill Whitehead says
Nan,
My sisters are planning to visit me separately this fall. My younger sister was president of their UU congregation for a few years and my older sister is president now. I plan to share your book, Reckoning, with them with the hope that they understand the importance of of this subject enough to share it as far as possible. I’ve been living this miracle my entire life, Nan, and you’re the best teacher I’ve ever found!
Nan Bush says
Jill, I’m grateful for your words. Doing my best to stay at least semi-active another couple of years. My best to your sisters. As UCC=bred myself, I know that a good New England-type UU is a treasure! Wish there were one near here; the nearest, 35 miles away, tends strongly to prosperity gospel thinking: not for me!
Jennifer says
Hi, Nan! I have about 40 pages left to go. It’s excellent! I’ll post a review once I finish and am able to formulate a concise message that could do justice to the immense amount of helpful information, thoughts and guidance you have provided in this book. I think it will be a book I will revisit many more times while making sense of my dNDE. It has already helped me as I’ve begun to think of my experience in new ways.Thanks!
Nan Bush says
Jennifer, a very big ‘thank you’ for your support! It’s worth rubies.
Judy Nill says
I’m glad to know of your third book. Yesterday, for the first time in years, I received notice of a new blog entry. I had no idea you’d been posting all the years between August 2017 and now! Seems I checked sometime in 2019 or later . . . Anyway, I look forward to reading both your new book and Bruce Greyson’s. It’s so good to see your work again, and I did re-subscribe.
Nan Bush says
Jucy, as my email said, there was a really big gap when I ran out of things to say, but we all seem to be coming back now. Thanks!
Judy Nill says
I get gaps (: Just glad you’re back.
Nan Bush says
Judy, bless you! Hug.